Forum2: Suggestions

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From FreeHapp: The Story

Description:
Subpage of Highlighting police corruption; the story of what happened to me (and what is happening to others)

Keywords:
'police Corruption',Corruption,'Wiltshire constabulary','Rodney King','Civil Liberty','Civil Liberties','Civil Rights',Freedom,Freedoms,Liberty,Justice,Disestablishmentarinism, efficiency,'incarceration without trial',incarceration

• What should happen
• How can This be Stopped?
• An efficiency improvement

What should happen

Also Cf. the Campaign Objectives.

I propose the Bail system be changed.
And the police should be partly disbanded.

I'm not joking here -- many police forces are criminal organisations -- they have become what they set out to defeat, and they're not helping anyone.

If the police were partly disbanded, or rather switched off particular "duties", the crime rate would skydive.

Note I do not advocate redundancies; we have to get these people off the streets.

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Every citizen person in this country, or indeed, many other countries and places, should be able to go about their honest sociable business without interference from the police/state/state police/police state/whoever.

It is the police's job to help maintain law and order
(and they can't even do that).

It is not the police's job to decide who can be friends with who, or who can go where, and lock them up if they don't. This sort of thing only provokes action against them, as in, for instance, this web site and the former Court case at Chippenham Magistrates Court.

The "authorities" don't run the place; - the place run's itself.

How can This be Stopped?

If the police start thinking they have power, and nobody stops them, pretty soon (ie, already), they'll be doing anything they want.

We have to get these people [the police] off the streets.

An efficiency improvement

Disbanding, shop & car crime merry-go-round & extreme crime exceptions table.
'police Generating more crime than they solve. Feedback from offline discussion (yes, in a Pub).

Problems with the police; Suggestions on Mechanism and Solution

• The police's recruiting:
  The type of people they snap up:
  Those without experience of life, to deal with life.
  • Racists, sexists, fascists, bigots, and the generally immature.
  • The power handed out to these people pushes them over the edge.
• Mucking about with trivial matters, rather than getting on with the serious issues of the day.

Collected Short Suggestions

Make a complaint:
The police Ombusman was the police Complaints Authority (PCA), and is now the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC). This may lead to the officers involved losing their jobs.

Litigate:
Public Opinon: "Sue the *******s.".

• You can sue the police.
• Since the police put aside money for payouts, which defeat's the point of making them regret their actions, it is usually better to sue the individual officers concerned: You'll get less out of them, but it will do more good.
• You may or may not get money out of this, but it will attract attention, which may also help.
• The money may pay for damage done by the police, or/and you could follow the moral route and give some of it to a Civil Liberties charity (Hello), or some other cause related to the original circumstances.

Combine Action:
Since making a complaint and sueing the police tackle half the problem each, it is possible, and desirable, to do both simultanously.

Suggestions so far (& progress on those)

Note this is also for people whom are going through a similar process, and so the questions are just as relevant as the answers here.

Civil Liberties Groups

(Researched, not yet contacted.)

Internet research

(Done! And sporadically updating.)

Write to your MP

"The police gave us a lot of hassle, we went to our MP and all that stopped." The local MP is Mr. James Gray.
(Not yet contacted: Awaiting proper restoration of Communications Links.)

Publicity

'Got website, logo, motto, Campaign name, dishing out little Cards, discussing this with people, urging them to visit this website.

Make this website more Interactive

Doing, with hiccups. It can always be more so. Indirect feedback is a big thing, and takes a few days to cycle round.

The Discussion List went down thrice, for unrelated technical and economic reasons. (And, it transpares now, something more sinister from the local regional paper; correspondence [with them] continues. Probably a case of mistaken identity.) I did switch to ezboard, that went down (through inactivity); now I'm starting a more flexible one directly from the main 'Server.
Now much more reliable and flexible, with the advent of serverside coding.

Additional feedback pop's up from the Content's search engine analysis of most frequently searched for data. The first real result from this, somebody wanted to know about Leamington Spa Bail Hostel. I have published a list of all Bail Hostel and all prisons in this country once now I have researched such a thing.

Provide alternative communication for those without internet access

Yes, that is an flaw. We now have leaflets, questionaires were on the cards once, and perhaps a Freepost/Freephone setup.

Criticism of balance from serving Officer.
Similar right-wing impression of "them-and-us" culture in site.
However, this is the prevalent public view. Specific examples in site unclear.

From a Team Leader in a Double-Glazing company in Swindon:
Instead of criticising from the outside, how about joining the police and leading by example?

• Not for me personally, it'd be a bit like a Jew joining the nazis.
• That might suit others. However, there is still a valuable support and debate role on the 'outside', as well as better perspective of course.

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